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Pamela Holman talks to Ossie Osbourne

You may remember your disappointment when Black Sabbath had to cancel their first British tour in months at the end of last year.
Well, They`re back on the road again, kicking off on Monday at Birmingham Town Hall, when they`ll have a host of new material to offer as well as many of their old favourites.
“I`m really looking forward to playing in Britain,” said Ossie Osbourne when I met him on a grey winter`s day in London last week. “We haven`t played here for such a long time and I feel that we`ve let down a lot of our loyal fans.
“Unfortunately we`re not doing any London dates. It would have been nice if we could have started the tour in London. We may be doing a separate gig at the Albert Hall later, but there`s nothing definite yet. It was really emotional when we last played there: we`d never enjoyed ourselves so much.
“The reason our December tour had to be cancelled was because I was very ill when we returned from the States in November. I had a septic throat and a temperature of about 105 and was out of action for a month.
“As a result we`ve been really pushed to get some new material together for our act, and it`s been hard work.
“We`ve got so much planned for 1972. We`ll be doing this British tour, then we`re off to America once again in March for four weeks. After that, there`s a Continental tour, then Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Africa – a worldwide thing.”
Black Sabbath`s fourth album is scheduled for release in April. This time the em- (emphasis? Blog Ed. note) will be on melody, but will still retain Sabbath`s characteristic heaviness.
“This album will have a number of short tracks in order for there to be a lot of variety,” Osbourne continued. “I think that long numbers get boring, and if we want to retain our popularity we`ll have to have a change.
“As yet we`ve only recorded about half of the backing tracks. We`re getting some weird effects in the studio, and doing insane things. For instance we got everybody to march to the top of this big staircase the other day singing “I-Ho” like the Seven Dwarfs. It was amazing; everybody just let themselves go, people who wouldn`t normally do that. We took it down on tape and are thinking of including it on the album but we`re not too sure yet. It really was an incredible effect. It sounded like there were a million people there.

I asked him if there was any chance of a follow-up to “Paranoid,” their immensely successful single released over 12 months go.



“I just don`t know,” he said. “We didn`t want to get into the rut of producing one single after another because if you do that you get the wrong kind of image, and apart from that there`s too much to do when you`re trying to get an album together.
“Of course, we gained a lot more fans when that was a hit – many of them much younger than our usual followers. But I don`t care if people who come to see us are 10 or 110, provided they come along to listen to the music.
“But it drove us round the bend at some gigs. People kept jumping up on the stage and at one Northern date the kids accidentally damaged the speakers because they`d squeezed so many people into the place. The promoters kept letting more and more people in until it was like a gas chamber. Hitler would have had a field day!
“Since we released that record we`ve had a bit of extra money, but I think that money is pretty evil. Sure you need it to survive, but it`s brought me a lot of unhappiness. Through wealth you lose much of your identity, and you can`t communicate with people the way you could before. Your old friends look on you as if you`re not there, because they want you to change.
“I want to keep as many of my old friends as I possibly can, but you can`t always do that because they change their attitude towards you.

What can he see for the future of the band?

“All I can see is hard work for at least the next 12 months. We`re going to try to vary our music as much as possible, different approaches but maintaining the heaviness because we all dig heavy music.”

My note: The album Ozzy (or Ossie as he is called in the article) talks about was to be called Vol. 4. Among many die-hard Sabbath fans still regarded as one of, if not THE best album in all of the Sabbath catalog.

This was also a time when T. Rex and Marc Bolan ruled Britain! To understand how big he was, take a look at this 1971 poll from this edition of the NME:


3 singles among the 10 best singles of 1971. T. Rex is also number 1 in the category “World vocal group”. As voted by the people.


T. Rex shares first place with none other than John Lennon in making 1971`s best British album. Not bad at all, considering what kind of album Lennon made that year. A lot of other big names down that list too.

Anyone remember Marvin, Welch & Farrar? Voted 6th best British vocal group? Nah, me neither…but you may remember two of these three in their other group: The Shadows. Here is a song by Marvin, Welch & Farrar:

This number of the NME also contains articles/interviews with these good people: T. Rex, America, Tom Fogerty, Stevie Wonder, Byrds, Dave Mason and Papa John Creach

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  1. I’ve just come across your blog while looking up my mother’s articles during her time in NME.
    Unfortunately she passed away in 1993 at 42 years old so I never had time to talk to her about all the musicians she interviewed.
    A number of years ago, I emailed NME and explained Pamela passed and I had never seen or read one of her articles. A couple of months later, I received an A3 package containing all her articles that an NME intern kindly photocopied for me.
    I recently scanned all the articles into digital format and made a photo book for my brothers 40th so he has the memories in a book.
    Believe it or not, I could never bring myself to read an article in full up to this week. I’ve spent the last few evenings reading everyone of them, listening to all the bands she interviewed at the time.
    Peace at last!

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    1. Thank you for sharing your story! Your mother, along with all those she interviewed, lives on through her writing. Glad you finally read all her articles – she passed away much too early! Take good care of the memories. This blog is as much a tribute to the writers as the artists. Peace and welcome to the blog!


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